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Monday, August 25, 2008

The same as marriage

Betrothal is not the same as marriage, but is one way to enter into marriage. I believe this fits your definition of betrothal, as referenced in your comments on Michael Pearl's writings.

Two things here:

1) Betrothal and marriage are not the same word, I grant. Their meanings differ, I also grant. But much the same way as the words 'eating' and 'swallowing'. Swallowing is 'a part of' eating, and betrothal is 'a part of marriage' (the first part).

2) One way? Or the only correct way?

2 comments:

Nathaniel said...

To answer your question regarding 2):
Since Jesus defined marriage as a man and woman leaving and cleaving, or we might say covenant and consumation, anything that includes the two will you get you married.

a + b = c
(a) + (b) = c
(a+b) = c

so does

a
+b
___
c

Even b + a = c and it's biblical, though in that case c is a punishment for having b without a! lol.

In many cases the covenant and consumation take place the same day. I deliberately said betrothal was one way to enter into marriage. I believe it's the best way, but I would sure hate to give the majority of the world's population an excuse to divorce by implying that their marriage wasn't done correctly, and hence, is invalid.

von said...

Knowldge of the Law = B+
Logic = C
... or perhaps I am just not communicating well :)

By 'Betrothal' I mean 'Covenant'.. .so your 'anything that includes [betrothal] and consumation... and then later you say... I believe its the best way.

I agree with you that marriage requires covenant and consumation.

I disagree that this is implied in the verse 'leave and cleave'... but ignoring that..

I hadn't meant to give anyone an excuse for divorce:
1) You can't divorce if you aren't married.
2) You don't get out of a moral obligation because you entered it improperly... you gain *more* moral obligation.

Some questions:
a) Was Jacob married to Leah? When? To Rachel? Betrothed, same questions.
b) Was Judah married to Tamar? If not why not?

Oh, and 'c' was not the punishment, the inability to divorce was.